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Ancient Scientific Knowledge
(2009-12-11) The [First] Theorem of Thales
The fundamental theorem of (classical) geometry.
Quand l'ombre de l'homme sera égale à l'homme,
l'ombre de la Pyramide sera égale à la Pyramide.
Bernard Lefèbvre,
lecturing on Thales (1973)
Thales of Miletus was born in the
seventh century BC.
An engineer by trade, he is the first of the
Seven Sages of Greece.
Thales is credited with the first rational speculations about Nature
(natural philosophy).
The advent of natural philosophy was a fundamental step on the way to a real
understanding of Nature, compared to the primitive approach of "explaining" everything
by divine intervention (a viewpoint which is arguably still with us,
unfortunately). This became modern physics
only with the revolutionary introduction of the
scientific method of comparing speculations and observations!
Thales is also touted as the founder of classical geometry,
although some of it predates him
(including the construction with straightedge
and compass of the circle circumscribed to a triangle,
by the Phrygian mathematician Euphorbus).
Legend has it that Thales was asked to tell the height
of the Pyramid (possibly, the
Pyramid of Cheops).
His answer came down to me (via my high-school philosophy teacher)
in the eloquent form quoted at the
beginning of this section. Consider the
shadow of the Pyramid and the shadow of a man (or, rather,
the shadow of a vertical pole whose height is easy to measure).
Here's the key:
[First] Theorem of Thales :
If the corresponding sides
of two triangles are parallel, the trianles are similar
and the lengths of their sides are proportional.
[ Pause ]
How does this help? The two shadows may be proportional to the two heights and
we can quickly measure the shadow and the height of the vertical pole
but we know
neither the height of the Pyramid nor the length of its shadow!
Think about it: You are by yourself in this flat desert with your graduated yardstick next
to a pole of known height. How can you find the height of the
Great Pyramid?
[ Answer ]
For over two millenia, the geometry of Thales, which would be formalized by
Euclid three centuries later,
was thought to apply to our physical Universe.
The universe of classical geometry is postulated to be
homogeneous (Euclid's fourth postulate
states that all right angles are equal)
and unaffected by scaling (a statement
equivalent to Euclid's fifth postulate).
The scale invariance of the microscopic Universe was questioned by the
ancient Greeks (Democritus did speculate the existence of
indivisible "atoms" with a definite size) but it was
thought to be an idiosyncracy of the content of the Universe...
Noneuclidean geometries were not even considered before the 19-th century.
However, we know now that the large-scale structure of our physical Universe is indeed
noneuclidean
(this is a consequence of General Relativity).
Yet, this conclusion could not have been reached without the
likes of Thales and Euclid
who set an ideal to compare against.
(2006-10-19) Obliquity of the Ecliptic
Latitude of the Tropic of Cancer. Tilt of the Earth's axis of rotation.
Local high noon is the middle of the solar day. It's when the Sun
casts the shortest shadows.
On the summer solstice (June) and on the winter solstice (December) the Sun's rays
make two different angles with the local vertical.
The difference between these angles is always
twice the obliquity of the ecliptic.
Claudius Ptolemy
(AD 87-165) reports that
Eratosthenes of Cyrene
(276 BC-194 BC) had estimated the obliquity
of the Ecliptic to be:
11/83 of a half circle (180°) =
23.8554° = 23°51'20".
Eratosthenes, was merely 8' off the mark,
which is typical of the uncertainty in good angular measurements from antiquity (0.2°).
It turns out that the obliquity of the ecliptic changes slowly over time,
but its value in the times of Eratosthenes (i.e., when he was in his late thirties)
can be accurately estimated to be 23°43'30",
by putting T = -22.4 in this modern formula:
23°26'21.45" - 46.815" T - 0.0006" T2 + 0.00181" T3
The above is a standard approximation
for the mean obliquity of the ecliptic, as a function
of the time T counted from "January 1.5" of the year 2000
and expressed in "Julian centuries" of exactly 36525 days.
This means that, in the time of Eratosthenes, the Tropic of Cancer was
about 17 nautical miles (30 km)
north of its current (2006) latitude of 23°26'18".
The above formula also says that the Tropic of Cancer was at the latitude quoted by
Eratosthenes (11p/83) around 1347 BC.
Some have argued, backwards, that Eratosthenes did not measure the
obliquity himself (with a respectable accuracy for that period)
but used extremely accurate data from those earlier times...
This is either far-fetched or completely ludicrous.
(2006-11-06) The Ancient Wells of Syene
A vertical well in Syene is completely sunlit only once a year...
This ancient observation may have been part of the Egyptian folklore in the
times of Eratosthenes.
Exactly how ancient an observation could that be?
The latitude of Syene (modern Aswan) is about 24°06'N.
From the surface of the Earth, the radius of the Sun is seen at an angle of about 15'.
We're essentially told that the edge
of the Sun was lighting up the entire bottom of a vertical well
at Syene, just for a brief moment at noon on the summer solstice.
So, the center of the Sun must have been directly overhead at
a point exactly 15 angular minutes (15 nautical miles) to the south.
Therefore, the latitude of the Tropic of Cancer must have been 23°51'
at the time of the reports, if we assume they are perfectly accurate.
The above formula says that this happened about
33 centuries ago: Around 1300 BC.
However, as the verticality of a well is certainly of limited precision,
that date doesn't mean much.
The legendary observations could be made even today with a well that's tilted
by less than half a degree in the proper direction...
Any casual (or not-so-casual) observer will swear such a well to be "vertical".
(2006-10-14) 252 000 stadia around
(700 stadia per degree)
The size of the Earth, according to
Eratosthenes (276-194 BC).
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Eratosthenes of Cyrene became librarian
of the Great Library of Alexandria
around 240 BC,
when his teacher Callimachus died.
Eratosthenes knew the
above story about the wells of Syene.
He took that to mean that the Sun was directly overhead at noon
on the summer solstice in Syene (modern Aswan).
This is almost true, because Syene is almost on the
Tropic of Cancer.
Eratosthenes did not know about the slow evolution with time
of the latitude of the Tropic of Cancer and he took the above at face value.
Let's do the same (slight) mistake by using the modern map at right,
as if Eratosthenes were alive today...
From his own location in Alexandria,
Eratosthenes saw that, at noon on the summer solstice,
the Sun's rays were tilted 1/50 of a full circle from the zenith
(i.e., 7.2° from the local vertical).
If we assume that Syene is due south from Alexandria,
this says that the distance from Alexandria to Syene is
1/50 of the Earth circumference (a posteriori, that's only 6% off).
The error from the difference in longitude between
the two cities roughly compensates the error
which places Syene on the Tropic of Cancer.
That's because, as the above map shows,
the meridian of Alexandria (about 30°E)
crosses the Tropic of Cancer at a point which is about the same distance
from Alexandria as Syene (Aswan).
As the distance between Alexandria and Syene,
was reputed to be 5000 stadia,
Eratosthenes estimated the circumference of the Earth to
be 250 000 stadia.
This estimate was then rounded up to 700 stadia
per degree, which corresponds actually to 252 000 stadia
for the whole circumference (360°).
Unfortunately, we can't judge the absolute accuracy of that final result, because
we don't know precisely what kind of stadion
(or stadium) was
meant in the Alexandria-to-Syene distance quoted by Eratosthenes.
The traditional equivalences are
600 feet to a stadion and 8 stadia to a mile.
The latter ratio justified the introduction of the current "statute" mile
of 8 furlongs (1593) to replace the former
"London mile" (itself based on the Roman ratio of 5000 feet to the mile).
The ratio of 600 feet to the furlong, which made the furlong a "modern" equivalent
of the stadion, pertained to the deprecated "Saxon
foot", which was 11/10 of the "modern" foot
(henceforth, 1 ft = 0.3048 m).
A furlong is thus 660 ft.
However, the exact length of a Greek foot varied from one city to the next.
Arguably, Eratosthenes would have been likely to use
the Attic stade of 185 m
(8 Attic stades to the Roman mile).
In any case, his estimate was certainly
no worse than 20% off the mark and it may have been much better than that...
A circumference of 252 000 stadia would be only 1%
off if Eratosthenes, wittingly or unwittingly, had
been calling a "stade" an Egyptian surveying unit of 157 m,
which was sometimes identified with a Greek stadion.
That very low error figure of 1% is often quoted, but it's clearly
misleading by itself, because intermediary steps do not attain the same accuracy.
The great achievement of Eratosthenes
was to realize that the circumference of
the Earth could be estimated with some accuracy from a single angular measurement
and a few "well-known" facts, which happen to be approximately true.
By exaggerating the accuracy of the result, some commentators only cloud the issue.
Archimedes (287-212 BC)
quotes 300 000 stadia
as the figure "others have tried to prove" for the circumference of the Earth.
He does so in one of his most famous pieces:
De Arenae Numero (The Sand Reckoner)
where his main concern with upper bounds led him to use
a number ten times as large, just to be on the safe side.
There is very little doubt that Archimedes was thus referring to [a rounded up version of]
the estimate of his younger contemporary.
Archimedes reportedly treated Eratosthenes as a peer.
There may well have been some rivalry between the two men,
which might be why Archimedes avoids mentionning the name
of Eratosthenes in a text where he give meticulous credit to many others.
To Archimedes and Eratosthenes, the "traditional" estimate for the
circumference of the Earth was most probably the one quoted by
Aristotle (384-322 BC) in
On The Heavens, namely: 400 000 stadia.
This number was attributed by Aristotle himself to previous
mathematikoi [the term usually applies to the elite
followers of Phytagoras (c.582-507 BC) but it has been argued that Aristotle
could have meant to credit ancient Chaldean astronomers].
That tradition may help gauge the numerical breakthrough achieved by Eratosthenes.
It may also explain why Archimedes didn't find it prudent to use
the result of Eratosthenes in his own Sand Reckoner essay.
(2010-07-04) Computing the distance to the Moon
Aristarchus used lunar eclipses. Hipparchus used solar eclipses.
Around 270 BC,
Aristarchus of Samos remarked that the angular size of
the shadow cast by the Earth on the Moon's orbit (readily obtained by timing the maximum
duration of a lunar eclipse) gave the ratio of the size of the Earth to the
Earth-Moon distance. From this, he correctly deduced that the distance to the
Moon was about 60 Earth radii.
The size of the Earth itself would be estimated later by Eratosthenes.
Hipparchus of Nicaea (c.190-126 BC)
confirmed that result independently by noting that a total solar eclipse
over a known remote location (see below) was observed in Alexandria
as a partal eclipse leaving 1/5 of the solar width (30'
or 0.5°) still visible. So, the angular separation
between those two earthly locations, seen from the Moon, was about 6' (0.1°).
Assuming a knowledge of the two positions on Earth,
Hipparchus (who invented trigonometry!) could deduce
the distance to the Moon (as 573 times the distance separating two parallel sunrays
through the two locations).
Where and When ?
There is some debate concerning the date and location of the solar eclipse used by
Hipparchus.
In the lifetime of
Hipparchus,
only one total solar eclipse occurred over Syene
(technically, it was an annular eclipse).
It took place on
August 17,
180 BC at a time when Hipparchus was probably just a boy.
The previous total solar eclipse over Syene had occurred 80 years before,
on September
16, 260 BC. (Courtesy Fred Espenak of NASA, July 2003.)
However, it seems that Syene was not involved at all in this.
Reports to the contrary are probably simply due to a confusion with the
related story about Eratosthenes estimating the size of the Earth.
Instead, Hipparchus reportedly used an eclipse over the Hellespont
(the Dardanelles strait).
It was most probably the solar eclipse of
November 20,
129 BC (previous total or annular solar eclipses over the Dardanelles took place in
190 BC,
263 BC,
310 BC
and
340 BC).
Earth-Moon
distance by Hipparchus (Cornell University) Eclipse over Syene [?]
How distant is the Moon?
by David P. Stern (NASA) Eclipse over the Hellespont.
(2006-11-04) Latitude and Longitude
Covering the Globle with a grid of parallels and meridians.
The idea of using a system of spherical coordinates to locate points on
the Earth is credited to
Hipparchus of Nicaea (c.190-126 BC)
who first used it to map the heavens.
Latitude :
There's no doubt that the notion of latitude is extremely ancient.
Any smart shepherd who looks up several times in a single night,
would notice that all star patterns revolve around a special point in the
sky: the celestial pole.
The celestial north pole is currently close to the position of the star we
call Polaris or North Star.
This wasn't always so,
because of the precession of equinoxes
(discovered by Hipparchus
in 130 BC):
The polar axis varies slowly, like the axis of a spinning top does.
In the main, over a period of
about 26000 years,
it goes around a large circle of angular radius
e » 23.44°
(which is the mean obliquity of the ecliptic ).
About 14000 years ago, the bright star
Vega
(a-Lyrae,
magnitude 0.03) was only 3°86'
from the celestial pole (that angle is still more than 7 times the width of the Moon).
For completeness, note that
the axis of the Earth oscillates around
the position predicted by the above circular motion, just like
the axis of a spinning top does
(nutation
motion).
This translates into a periodic variation of the obliquity of the ecliptic,
which astronomers approximate with a polynomial function of time,
valid for a few centuries.
The angle between the celestial pole and the plane of the horizon is
the local latitude,
which can be measured to a precision of about 0.2° with elementary tools
(angular units need not be assumed; the result
could be expressed as a fraction of a whole circle).
Even without formal measuring,
this special angle could be materialized by erecting
pointers to the celestial pole, aligned by direct observation
(possibly for religious reasons).
By contrast, the next logical step was undoubtedly one of mankind's major prehistorical
discovery: "Latitude" (as defined above) changes from one place to the next!
The breakthrough was to have the idea that such a change might occur.
After that, observing it is comparatively easy...
The change is already noticeable after walking only 3 or 4 hours to the north or to the south
(if you look carefully enough). A major voyage would make it totally obvious...
We may thus guess that the modern notion of latitude is very old, since
people have been navigating and observing changes in latitude for a very long time:
 Sailing ships already traveled along the Nile river around 3100 BC.
Solid wooden boats existed before 6000 BC in Europe,
skin and bark boats have been traced to
16 000 BC.
There's some evidence that people from Southeast Asia already had seagoing capabilities
and sophisticated navigation skills as early as 60 000 BC (some of them
reached Australia and settled in Melanesia around 40 000 BC).
The Norwegian explorer Thor Heyerdahl (1914-2002)
spent a lifetime proving that such prehistorical voyages where a practical possibility,
starting with the celebrated Voyage of the Kon-Tiki in 1947.
Longitude :
Longitude is a different story entirely.
Until reliable chronometers became available, longitude was mostly an intellectual
construct based on the assumption that the Earth was spherical (or nearly so).
The difference in longitude between two points could only
be estimated on firm land, by using surveying techniques after
some fairly good knowledge of the size of the Earth had been gained
to calibrate the whole process, like Eratosthenes did.
Hipparchus (who was born when Eratosthenes died)
was thus in a position to make the notion of terrestrial longitude a practical proposition.
However, more than 1600 years would pass before someone like
Christopher Colombus would be willing to bet his life on the
scholarly belief that the Ocean was small enough to sail through...
(2006-10-17) Itinerary Units: Land Leagues
and Nautical Leagues
Matching land surveys and degrees of latitude at sea.
Perhaps the most interesting ancient itinerary unit is the league.
It comes in two flavors, land league and nautical league
(each with many definitions).
The Latin for "league" (leuga) comes from the Gallic leuca
[ not the other way around ] which was supposed
to be equivalent to an hour of walking.
This land league was identified with 3 "miles" whenever and wherever some flavor of the
"mile" was the dominant itinerary unit (Roman mile, London mile, Statute mile).
The original "mile" was the military
Roman mile of a thousand steps.
Each of those steps was properly a double-step (or stride) which the Romans
reckoned to be 5 (Roman) feet.
Land League(s) :
Officially, each flavor of the land league remained quite stable over time,
although actual recorded measurements may show some lack of
precision for both local land surveying and itinerary measurement.
Among the many "leagues" born in the Old World,
Roland Chardon singles out 5 which took hold in North America:
- French lieue commune of 3 Roman miles (4444 m).
- French grande lieue ordinaire
(3000 pas = 4872.609 m).
- French lieue de poste (2000 toises =
3898.0872 m).
- Mexican league,
legua legal
(3000 pasos de Solomon = 5000 varas = 4191 m)
- Castilian legua común,
legua regular antigua, modern
legua
(20000 pies
de Burgos = 5572.7 m)
The Spanish system comes in different flavors whose basic units differ slightly,
but all of them have 5 pies to the paso and 3 pies to the vara.
The vara may also be subdivided into 4 cuartas or 8 ochavas.
The vara de Burgos was apparently first established in 1589, but was given
its final metric definition (0.835905 m) only in 1852, as Spain was converting
to the metric system.
It competes with the vara of California
(now identified with the ancient vara de Solomon)
which the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848) set to 33 inches (0.8382 m)
to replace no fewer than 22 variants previously flourishing in California...
The so-called "vara of Texas" was defined in 1855 (3 of those are exactly 100 inches).
Nautical League(s) :
Each version of the nautical league was normally defined as a simple fraction
of the (average) degree of latitude.
The nautical league which (barely) survives to this day is 1/20 of a degree (3 nautical
miles) but another nautical league of 1/15 of a degree (4 nautical miles) used to be
almost as common.
The ratio of the nautical units to the land units varied historically,
as the accepted size of the Earth varied
(normally becoming more accurate with the passage of time).
- Nautical league of 20 per degree (equal to 3 modern nautical miles).
- Dutch or Spanish marine league of 15 per degree (4 nautical miles).
In the early 1500s, these two were respectively equated to 3 and 4
Roman miles, which represents an underestimate of 20%, since
a Roman mile is only 80% of a true nautical mile.
That error was all but corrected by the mid 1600s.
The pre-metric value for the league "of 20 per degree" was
2850 toises (5554.8 m).
The conventional modern value of the nautical league is 5556 m
(3 nautical miles of 1852 m).
The deprecated definition of the nautical mile
as an "average minute of latitude"
is treacherous, because of the implied
averaging over the surface of an oblate spheroid.
Also, "latitude" comes in two distinct flavors: geocentric and
geodetic.
Still, Livio C. Stecchini
argues
that a "memory of the Roman calculation" of 75 Roman miles to the degree of latitude
was preserved trough medieval times.
This is so nearly perfect that it seems entirely too good to be true...
(2008-03-10) Amber, Compass and Lightning
The ancient mysteries of electricity and magnetism.
The word electricity comes from the greek word for
amber.
Amber is a transparent material consisting of hardened resin from conifers
(mostly of the family Sciadopityaceae
that flourished in the Baltics
44 million years ago). If you rub it against wool, polished
amber attracts nearby dust or dry leaves.
Thales of Miletus (c. 624-546 BC)
recorded that observation around 600 BC.
About 80% of the World's amber
(100 000 metric tons) was produced 44 million years ago in forests of
the Baltic Region.
Natural Baltic amber
is sometimes known as succinite because it contains from 3%
to 8% of succinic acid
(a solid also known as "spirit of amber"). Succinic acid is the third simplest
dicarboxylic acid;
its formula is HOOC(CH2 )2 COOH
(butanedioic acid) and it plays an essential metabolic rôle
in the Krebs cycle.
In 1620, Niccoló
Cabeo (1586-1650) observed that two electrified objects can either
attract or repel. An electrified object always attracts an unelectrified one.
In 1733,
Charles
François du Fay (1698-1739)
discovered that there are actually two opposite
types of electrical charges, which he called resinous
and vitreous.
Unlike charges attract each other, like charges repel.
The attraction exerted by either kind of charges on any unelectrified
object is due to the influence of a charged
body on a neutral one.
Charges are redistributed within the latter:
Unlike charges are pulled closer and like charges are pushed away.
As distant charges have a lesser action than close ones, there's a net pull.
We now speak of negative charges (resinous)
and positive charges (vitreous) according to the arbitrary
algebraic sign convention which was introduced before 1746
by Benjamin Franklin
(1706-1790) to formulate the fundamental principle of
conservation of electric charge
which is attributed to him and
William
Watson (1715-1787).
Various materials acquire a definite electric charge when rubbed.
Amber becomes negatively charged.
Glass acquires a positive charge.
This phenomenon is known as
triboelectricity
(electricity produced by friction).
Electrostatic machines depend on it but the effect remains fairly difficult to
quantify precisely, because it depends critically on a variety of factors which are
tough to control (e.g., surface condition and humidity).
The following list, known as the triboelectric series,
predicts fairly accurately (under typical conditions) which material will acquire
a positive charge and which material will acquire a negative charge when they are
separated after being rubbed on each other: The earlier the material
appears in the series, the more positive it will tend to be.
Triboelectric Series
| Strongly Positive |
Human skin, Leather, Rabbit's fur Glass, Quartz, Mica
|
|---|
| Positive |
Human hair, Nylon, Wool, Lead, Cat's fur, Silk
|
|---|
| Slightly Positive |
Aluminum, Paper
|
|---|
| Neutral |
Cotton, Steel
|
|---|
| Slightly Negative |
Wood, Lucite
|
|---|
| Negative |
Amber, Sealing wax, Acrylic, Polystyrene, Rubber balloon, Resins, Hard rubber,
Nickel, Copper, Sulfur, Brass, Silver, Gold, Platinum
|
|---|
| Strongly Negative |
Acetate, Rayon, Synthetic rubber,
Polyester, Styrofoam, Orlon, Plastic wrap, Polyurethane, Polyethylene (Scotch tape),
PVC, Silicon, Teflon, Silicone rubber, Ebonite
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For many century, magnetism was perceived as
a phenomenon unrelated to electricity.
Legend has it that it was first observed around 900 BC
(by a Greek shepherd called Magnus) through the ability of a certain mineral
to attract bits of iron.
The mineral was called magnetite because it was commonly
found in a region named Magnesia (Central Greece).
The region gave its name to the rock
( Fe3O4 ) the rock gave its name to the
phenomenon.
Arguably, the first scientific paper ever written
is a treatise on magnetism known as
Epistola de Magnete,
written in 1269 by the French scholar
Petrus
Peregrinus (Pierre Pèlerin de Maricourt ).
The notion of conservation of energy would emerge only much later,
so we should forgive Peregrinus for believing magnetism could produce perpetual motion!
He was writing more than three centuries before
Sir William Gilbert
(1544-1603) [William Gylberde of Colchester]
published De Magnete (1600).
One major contribution of Peregrinus was the observation that
magnetic poles (which he
defined) always come in opposite pairs.
A magnetic pole cannot be isolated from other poles of the opposite
polarity; every piece of lodestone features both kinds of poles.
The modern statement
(for which no exceptions have been found to this day)
is that "there are no magnetic monopoles"
(the simplest magnetic distribution is a dipole).
This is expressed mathematically by one of the four
equations of Maxwell
(div B = 0).
Unlike the other three, that particular equation does not currently enjoy the
privilege of a universally accepted specific name.
It's sometimes referred to as "Gauss's law for magnetism",
which is dubious. To be understood, I have been calling it
the "Gauss-Weber law" myself, but it should really be called
either the Law of Peregrinus or
Pèlerin's Law, in honor of the
scientific pioneer who first stated it (in the language of his day).
| |  Grosseteste |
Petrus Peregrinus and the Dawn of Modern Science :
The scientific method
[of comparing theories with observations]
was formally conceived by
Robert Grosseteste (1168-1253)
at Oxford, where he taught
Roger Bacon (1214-1294).
Bacon and
Pierre Pèlerin de Maricourt (Peregrinus)
belonged to the next generation, who would start practicing Science according
to the rules laid down by Grosseteste.
Roger Bacon's own manuscripts (c. 1267)
give high praise to Peregrinus
(identified as
Magister Petrus de Maharn-Curia, Picardus)
whom Bacon had met in Paris
(apparently
Bacon himself had no great interest in Science until he met Peregrinus).
Although most of the work of Peregrinus is now lost, we know that he was an outstanding
mathematician, an astronomer, a physicist, a physician, an experimentalist
and, above all, a pioneer of the scientific method...
He may have been described as a recluse devoted to the study of Nature, but he was
actually a military engineer who, in the words of Roger Bacon,
was once able to assist
Saint Louis
(Louis IX of France, 1214-1270) "more than his whole army"
(Peregrinus apparently invented a new kind of armor).
De Maricourt's Epistola de Magnete
was "done in camp at the siege of Lucera, August 8, 1269".
Peregrinus was then serving the brother of Saint-Louis,
Charles of Anjou,
King of Sicily. No other biographical details are known.
- Petrus Peregrinus de Maricourt and his Epistola de Magnete
by Silvanus P. Thompson, D.Sc., F.R.S. (1906)
Proceedings of the British Academy, Vol. II.
Oxford University Press.
- The Letter of Petrus Peregrinus on the Magnet, A.D. 1269
translated by Brother Arnold, M.Sc. Introduction by
Brother Potamian, D.Sc. (1904).
Digitized in 2007.
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