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© 2000-2023   Gérard P. Michon, Ph.D.

 Time!


Time is defined so that
motion looks simple.

 Misner, Thorne and Wheeler
(Gravitation, 1973)
 
The only reason for time is so that 
everything doesn't happen at once.

Albert Einstein  (1879-1955)
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The Arrow of Time

It seems that there is a  "Chronology Protection Agency"
which prevents the appearance of closed timelike curves
and so makes the Universe safe for historians.

Stephen Hawking  (1942-2018)  in  1992

Tom H  (Yahoo! 2007-05-15)   What is  time ?

Here's one of my favorite quotes  It's a translation by  John A. Wheeler  of a provocative statement made by  J. Henri Poincaré:

Time is defined so that motion looks simple.

In other words, "time" is defined as the independent variable which makes the equations of mechanics take on a simple form.  This is an operational definition which was designed in a simpler era of "classical" physics.  It still holds for nonrelativistic quantum theory, where time remains an old-fashioned "independent variable".

However, at a deeper level of understanding, time cannot be simply such an "independent" parameter against which events are recorded. Instead, it's a component of spacetime  (to a degree, time and space can be traded for each other).  This has profound implications for our modern descriptions of the physical world.  Especially in the quantum realm.


Tom H  (Yahoo! 2007-07-08)   The Beginning of Time
What was there  before  the Big Bang took place?

Time is just another coordinate of spacetime, so it has to unfold together with the other dimensions.  Time is created with the rest of space; there was simply no "before".  There was no "instant" of creation and there was no "location" for the primordial explosion either.  The center was everywhere.  It still is.

A geometrical analogy might help:  Think of the surface of a sphere and imagine latitude is "time".  There's nothing north of the North Pole, is there?

This analogy with a sphere has other nice features.  In particular, the North Pole is not very different from nearby points;  it's just an artifact created from the way we measure things.  So too, the "instant" of creation is not well defined; it depends on the speed and location of the vantage point from which the (theoretical) mesurement is made.  All of this is without even considering the quantum aspects which nobody really understands (yet?).  Does this blow you mind?  Well, it should.  It blows everybody's mind.

Concerning, the "stuff" the Universe was made from, the answer is also weird...  The key remark is that gravitation has more negative energy when everything is packed tight.  Think about everyday experience: energy is released when an object is dropped,  so there's less energy (more "negative energy") when the Earth and the object are closer together.  At the scale of the entire Universe, the numbers are mind-boggling:  The positive energy in the Universe today  (the energy of radiation and matter according to  E=mc)  seems to balance exactly the negative energy of gravitation.  Therefore, it looks like the Universe could have been created from zero energy, from absolutely nothing!

Come to think of it, it MUST have been so, or else how would you explain the "manufacture" of the original stuff itself?  This framework makes the Universe explainable  (in principle, at least)  without violating physical laws.  Ultimately, we can hope to be left with only one question:  "Why?" or "What caused it?"  That last question, however, is not a scientific one  (no matter how interesting it might be).


blue22op  (Yahoo! 2007-05-15)   Unavoidable Time Machines
Is there a time machine in the process of being made?

I grieved to think how brief the dream of the human intellect had been.
H.G. Wells (1866-1946)   The Time Machine  (1895)

Like perpetual motion, time travel is  both unavoidable and impossible.

Microscopically, time-travel is unavoidable.  Elementary particles routinely go backward in time; there's  no difference  between a particle moving forward in time and its  antiparticle  moving backward in time.  A  particle-antiparticle  creation or anihilation may also be described as a particle reversing its direction in time.

Now, can we harness this basic mechanism to make coherent systems consisting of many particles  (and carrying definite information with them) go back in time?

The answer is as much of a "no" as what applies to the related question of whether it's possible to transform brownian motion into coherent motion  (that would be called perpetual motion "of the second kind").  If you don't believe in one, you don't believe in the other...

Of course, science is not supposed to be about beliefs, but it is (to some degree).  It's a much more productive belief  (from a scientific standpoint)  to assume that perpetual motion can't exist than the opposite...  In one case, you'll refine the basic laws of thermodynamics.  In the other case, you may waste your life on doomed tinkering.  Similarly, the impossibility of time-travel imposes useful constraints on the very laws of fundamental physics we are aiming to formulate.  It's almost certainly the more useful of two possible beliefs, to put it in provocative terms.

This does not mean you can't have fun thinking about the paradoxes of time-travel.  However, those very paradoxes should be an indication that attempts at building an actual time-machine are as doomed as attempts to build a perpetual motion machine.  Or vice-versa.


(2003-11-03)   Laplace's Demon
In a predictable Universe, the past and the future are alike.

[For an intellect which would know all positions and velocities]
nothing could be uncertain and the future,
just like the past, would be present before its eyes.

Pierre Simon de Laplace  (1749-1827)

The "intellect" so introduced by the  Marquis de Laplace  (Essai Philosophique sur les probabilités, 1814)  is now dubbed  Laplace's Demon.  Its existence, within this world or outside of it, would make the Universe frozen in spacetime, like a movie already filmed.

What Laplace envisioned was a God who could compute the past and the future from a snapshot of the present  (according to Newtonian mechanics, perfect knowledge of all positions and velocities at one instant makes the future entirely predictable and allows the deduction of what the past was exactly like).

Modern quantum mechanics precludes that.  Perfect knowledge of everything that ever was and ever will be, simply cannot be deduced from anything but prior knowledge of the same.  Not even the past is certain because of the unavoidable existence of a minute influence of the future on the past.  Laplace's Demon is a deep fallacy.

The demons of classical physics


(2014-08-11)   Thermal Time

Le temps est un phénomène émergent qui
qui vient de notre méconnaissance des détails.

Alain Connes,  1947-   (interview, 2014-02-05)

Alain Connes  considers that the  compact operators  on the Hilbert spaces used in quantum mechanics may play a rôle similar to the  infinitesimals  used in a bygone era to embody the continuity or space or time.  In the noncommutative case, Connes found the emergence of a single-parameter concept which could be construed as the  passage of thermodynamical time  when the notion isn't postulated  a priori  as a fundamental parameter.

The abstract structures now called  Von Neumann algebras  were introduced  in 1929  by  John von Neumann (1903-1957)  in the special case of  rings of operators  acting on Hilbert spaces.  Originally, much of the focus was on the commutative case.

Replacing Infinitesimals with Compact Operators :

 Come back later, we're
 still working on this one...

Von Neumann algebra automorphisms and time-thermodynamics...   Alain Connes & Carlo Rovelli  (1994).
Noncommutative Geometry (654 pages)  by Alain Connes  (1994).
 
Wikipedia:  Von Neumann algebra  |  Commutative von Neumann algebra
Kubo-Martin-Schwinger equation (KMS)  |  Thermal time hypothesis  |  Carlo Rovelli (1956-)


(2014-06-13)   Oven-Controlled Crystal Oscillator   (OCXO)
Very low phase noise can be achieved.

Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
C-Mac: STP 2055 B   (ebay: beatjhunky).
Morion: MV89A   (ebay: flyingbest)


(2014-06-12)   GPS Time for the Hobbyist
Ultra-precise real-time clock  (RTC)  and frequency standard  (10 MHz).

The  Global Positioning System  (GPS)  is based on a network of at least 24 active satellites with cesium atomic clocks onboard.  Each satellite keeps broadcasting its own time and space coordinates.  If a receiver gets at least 3 such signals simultaneously, it can work out its own location in space and also synchronize its clock with the broadcasted time.  This last function is our main concern here...

Since 1972, all time systems are  synchronized  to a whole number of seconds
SystemZeroLeap secondsDefinition
GPS1980-01-06 00:00 UTCNoTAI - 19 s
UTC1972-01-01 00:00 UTCYes(TAI - 37 s)
Loran-C1958-01-01 00:00 UTCNoTAI - 60 s
Legal times normally differ from UTC by a whole number of hours  (in a few rare cases, half-hours or even quarters of an hour).
 
Normal time-zones are identified by a letter of the alphabet, often pronounced with the conventions used in two-way radio transmissions.  Thus, "Z" or  Zulu  time is UTC itself.  "A" (Alpha) is UTC+1,  "B" (Bravo) is UTC+2, and so forth (skipping J) thru "M" (Mike) for UTC+12.  For time zones east of Greenwich, the letters used are "N" (November) for UTC-1 thru "Y" (Yankee) for UTC-12.  The letters "M" and "Y" thus correspond to the same time-zone but with different conventions for the change of dates.  The letter "J"  (Julie, Juliet or Juliett)  is reserved for local time when there's no ambiguity.  Increasingly, that convention is used only for  Zulu time  (UTC+0)  except in military circles.

As time goes on, the above table will always remain correct,  except  for the number of seconds separating UTC and TAI  (see link provided for the latest update)  because of the so-called  leap seconds  which are inserted into UTC at certain dates to best fit the tropical seasons on Earth, deduced from astronomical observations.

Universal Time, Coordinated  (UTC) differs from  International Atomic Time  ( TAI = Temps Atomique International )  by a whole number of seconds adjusted to avoid drifting away from solar time.  Mean solar time is based on astronomical observations only.  Our best estimate of that is UT1, published by the BIPM to a resolution of 100 ms  as the current difference (DUT1) between UT1 and UTC  (it's actually known to a precision of 2 ms or so).

Since 1972, UTC has been kept within  900 ms  of UT1  ("solar time")  by the insertion of  leap seconds  at the end of certain predetermined days  (published at least 6 months in advance).  In the UTC system, the last minute of December 31 or June 30 may last 61 seconds.

The statutes would also allow that to happen at the end of March or September but this possibility hasn't been needed yet.  Likewise, short minutes  (59 seconds)  are legally possible should the need ever arise to reflect an increased rate in the rotation of the Earth.  Thus, the current system would allow for an adjustment of up to 4 seconds per year in either direction, which is much more than what's needed to account for the observed irregularities in the rotation of the Earth...

The decision to insert a leap second or not at those dates is based on astronomical observations and it's the official duty of the  International Earth Rotation Service  (IERS)  to do so.  So far, leap seconds have been inserted at the end of the following UTC months:

UTC months ending with a  61-second  minute   (J = June,  D = December)
  0123456789Total
1970-1979  DJDDDDDDDD10
1980-1989  JJJ J D D6
1990-1999 D JJJD JD 7
2000-2009      D  D 2
2010-2019   J  JD    3
2020-2029   

One great unsung feature of some satellite positioning receivers is an ultra-precise  pulse per second  (PPS) outpout  (10% duty cycle).  It's available, in particular, on version 3 of Adafruit's breakout board featuring MediaTek's  MT3339  satellite positioning receiver on a chip.  The long-term stability of this signal matches that of the GPS itself, which is now synchronized with the network of atomic clocks that provides mankind's official time.

For metrological purposes, we can't rely directly on the pulses in that signal, because of the jitter described below.  Instead, we'll use it to train a good  oven controlled crystal oscillator (OCXO) monitored over long periods of time  (minutes, hours, days, months or even years)  to cancel all known sources of frequency drift.  This setup is known as a  GPS Disciplined Oscillator  (GPSDO).  One advantage of using a microcontroller for this task is the ability to log long-term data to monitor the aging of the ovenized crystal itself, via the long-term evolution of the control voltage necessary to maintain the OCXO synchronized with GPS time.

Tne MT3339 receiver is able to take advantage of some  augmentations of GPS, including the regional system most relevant to China:  The  Quasi-Zenith Satellite System  (QZSS)  is a regional  satellite based augmentation system (SBAS) of three or four geosynchronous satellites proposed by Japan to provide a variety of satellite services, including an improvement of the positioning performance of GPS with greater satellite availability in a region covering Japan, Asia and Oceania.

To take full advantage of the PPS signal from this receiver, we must first understand what it really is.  If all you want is to blink an LED with it, all you need to know is that it's a  1 Hz  digital signal  (3.3 V logic)  with a  10 %  duty cycle  (i.e.,  100 ms  positive pulses one second apart).  For metrological applications, we examine the timing much more precisely:

 Synchronizing a 10MHz oscillator (OCXO) 
 to the PPS signal from a GPS receiver   The yellow trace at left is the rising edge of the PPS signal, which is used to trigger the scope  (whose screen is thus updated once per second).
 
The blue trace is a 10 MHz local oven-controlled crystal oscillator  (OCXO)  trimmed to be GPS-synchronized in the long run.  Here, we may regard this OCXO as a rock-stable time reference.

What's observed is that the blue trace wanders about slowly across the screen but never for long...  It jumps back and forth in either direction as needed to keep its origin within an interval of about half a division  (that's 10 ns).

Therefore, the yellow trace has a jitter of about 10 ns.  (which is observed as a jitter of the blue trace only because we had to trigger on the yellow one).  This jitter is clearly due to the fact that the PPS signal is produced by a digital system with a clock rate of 100 MHz or so  (or a multiple thereof).  Triggering on the falling edge causes exactly the same jitter, possibly [??] because the pulse width is a whole number of cycles.

Even the best calibrations are never perfect but the above setup can easily be used to measure the imperfection of my former manual OCXO calibration  (before automating the process).  Even with the jitter corrections, the origin of the blue trace may drift slowly across the screen.  When I first measured that, it took between 282 s and 298 seconds to travel 10 divisions to the left  (most of the uncertainty in timing comes from that 10 ns jitter which makes the origin of the trace move back and forth across the "finish line"). This means my OCXO was then too fast by a relative amount equal to the drift divided by the time it took to achieve it  (say, 290 s).  Thus, the frequency of my reference oscillator could be determined in just a couple of minutes with superb precision  (0.03 ppb)  using a lowly stopwatch. 

10 MHz  [ 1 + (200 ns) / (290 s) ]   =   10000000.0069(2) Hz

The best relative precision we can achieve over short periods of time is half the jitter  (5 ns)  divided by the measurement duration.  For longer measurement periods, the precision becomes limited by the stability of the local OCXO and/or by the precision of the GPS itself.

From a design standpoint, I find it particularly appealing to use the 10 MHz signal from the OCXO to generate the system clock of the microcontroller which keeps the OCXO synchronized with GPS.  This way, the frequency of the OCXO itself can be measured with calibrated software that counts the number of clock cycles between PPS pulses.  For best accuracy, we don't actually count clock cycles but determine what type of error is made by sampling the signal at intervals of 10000000 clock cycles.

That information can then be used to control a digital-to-analog converter  (DAC)  whose output will adjust the frequency of the OCXO until the period of the PPS signal doesn't drift away from 10 million clock cycles for a long time.

This way, the frequency of the OCXO can be readily estimated with a precision equal to  55 ns  (half the sum of the jitter and the clock period)  divided by the duration of measurement.  The precision is thus 1 ppb after just one minute and could potentially be 1440 times less in a whole day  (at which point the slight unstabilities of the OCXO come into play).

A common low-precision DAC  (10-bit wide)  can be used in this high-precision application, by making digital trimming a mere correction to good manual trimming.  To do so, do your manual trimming with a potentiometer whose wiper is connected via some fairly large resistor to the output of the DAC when it's in the center of its range  (or else temporarily connect the resistor to whatever voltage that corresponds to).  The larger the resistor  (compared to the value of the trimming potentiometer)  the smaller the adjustement per step will be.

The microcontroller should be able to determine, by trial and error, whether an increase in voltage increases frequency or decreases it.  It should also be able to request manual trimming when the control voltage needed is out the DAC's range.  When that condition occurs because of aging, the microntroller will know in what direction the crystal ages and can set the DAC near the opposite end before requesting a manual trim  (that will make future trim requests less frequent).

 Come back later, we're
 still working on this one...

MediaTek Announces its Latest GPS Solution Supporting QZSS:  MT3339   (June 22, 2011).
Unfinished GPSDO project  (with cheap nanosecond interpolator)  by  Kasper Pedersen. Video :   HP/Agilent 53131A 010 High-Stability Timebase  by  Gerry Sweeney  (OCXO & DAC board).


(2019-06-11)   Cosmic Time
The time kept by a clock in free fall,  at rest in its own local CMB.

 Come back later, we're
 still working on this one...

Cosmological Redshift and Homogeneous Expansion (1:18:23)  by  Alan Guth  (MIT 8.286, Fall 2013).

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